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	<title>Comments on: Hackers, Bags, and History</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 07 Jan 2009 14:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nat</title>
		<link>http://pseudoweb.net/2007/08/17/hackers-bags-and-history/comment-page-1/#comment-255</link>
		<dc:creator>Nat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 18:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fantastic, I'll shut up now. And I own two of your bags and love them. 

Thank you Patti for the response.
/Nat</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fantastic, I&#8217;ll shut up now. And I own two of your bags and love them. </p>
<p>Thank you Patti for the response.<br />
/Nat</p>
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		<title>By: Patti from Timbuk2</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patti from Timbuk2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Aug 2007 17:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow- okay, lemme take a stab at answering your questions regarding price:

"If someone can justify why they can charge so much for their bags, and other lower quality bags are one third the price, then all hush up." 

The main reason for the price difference is quantity. For instance, Jansport and The North Face are owned by one humongo company called VFC. VFC can leverage the huge manufacturing need of their conglomeration of  brands to get lower manufacturing prices. In comparison, combined units TNF and Jansport build between their top 2 selling bags equals 4 YEARS worth of Timbuk2 bags total.
The more bags you build, the cheaper the price.
 
There are fabrication differences that contribute to the "WTF. $120 for a bag? ... total stretch". We don't use PVC cuz it sucker punches the environment. The alternative (TPU) is less prevalent and costs more. We don't use low denier nylons because they don't last nearly as long as Ballistic nylon, and we don't use the CHEAPEST manufacturers we can find in Asia- we partner with the folks who have great quality standards for both product and staff.

No doubt, $120 bucks is a lot of cash- we feel ya. If you decide to kick down for a Timbuk2 bag we'd love to hear if it lives up to your expectation.

-Patti
Timbuk2</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow- okay, lemme take a stab at answering your questions regarding price:</p>
<p>&#8220;If someone can justify why they can charge so much for their bags, and other lower quality bags are one third the price, then all hush up.&#8221; </p>
<p>The main reason for the price difference is quantity. For instance, Jansport and The North Face are owned by one humongo company called VFC. VFC can leverage the huge manufacturing need of their conglomeration of  brands to get lower manufacturing prices. In comparison, combined units TNF and Jansport build between their top 2 selling bags equals 4 YEARS worth of Timbuk2 bags total.<br />
The more bags you build, the cheaper the price.</p>
<p>There are fabrication differences that contribute to the &#8220;WTF. $120 for a bag? &#8230; total stretch&#8221;. We don&#8217;t use PVC cuz it sucker punches the environment. The alternative (TPU) is less prevalent and costs more. We don&#8217;t use low denier nylons because they don&#8217;t last nearly as long as Ballistic nylon, and we don&#8217;t use the CHEAPEST manufacturers we can find in Asia- we partner with the folks who have great quality standards for both product and staff.</p>
<p>No doubt, $120 bucks is a lot of cash- we feel ya. If you decide to kick down for a Timbuk2 bag we&#8217;d love to hear if it lives up to your expectation.</p>
<p>-Patti<br />
Timbuk2</p>
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